IRC Log for #microformats on 2006-06-27

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  12. [03:21:05] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
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  24. [04:24:53] <jibot> Enric is a media Software Developer and Videoblogger located at http://www.cirne.com
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  28. [04:39:38] <jibot> xtof is Christophe Ducamp you could find me on http://www.communitywiki.org/odd/Xtof/HomePage
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  31. [04:58:16] <mfbot> [[rel-tag-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-tag-fr&diff=0&oldid=6937 * ChristopheDucamp * (-2) typo
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  35. [05:20:17] <mfbot> [[xfolk-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/xfolk-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+15800) xfolk translation : structure translated
  36. [05:26:58] <tantek> xtof, how many *-fr pages are "completed" in your opinion?
  37. [05:35:04] <mfbot> [[xfolk-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfolk-fr&diff=0&oldid=6938 * ChristopheDucamp * (+286) Format - draft translation
  38. [05:36:55] <mfbot> [[xfolk-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfolk-fr&diff=0&oldid=6939 * ChristopheDucamp * (+6) Format - typo
  39. [05:38:26] <mfbot> [[xfolk-profile-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/xfolk-profile-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+2471) Cette page est destinée à traduire [[xfolk-profile]]
  40. [05:47:17] <mfbot> [[xfolk-profile-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfolk-profile-fr&diff=0&oldid=6940 * ChristopheDucamp * (+95)
  41. [05:51:58] <mfbot> [[xfolk-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfolk-fr&diff=0&oldid=6941 * ChristopheDucamp * (+69) Exemple -
  42. [06:01:40] <mfbot> [[xfolk-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfolk-fr&diff=0&oldid=6942 * ChristopheDucamp * (+270) Beaucoup plus d'exemples -
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  45. [06:10:26] <mfbot> [[xfolk-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfolk-fr&diff=0&oldid=6943 * ChristopheDucamp * (+227) Implémentations -
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  48. [06:21:07] <mfbot> [[xfolk-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfolk-fr&diff=0&oldid=6944 * ChristopheDucamp * (+295)
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  50. [06:27:03] <mfbot> [[xfolk-scuttle-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/xfolk-scuttle-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+3023)
  51. [06:31:29] <mfbot> [[xfolk-faq-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/xfolk-faq-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+210)
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  53. [06:32:26] <mfbot> [[xfolk-faq-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfolk-faq-fr&diff=0&oldid=6945 * ChristopheDucamp * (+64)
  54. [06:33:37] <mfbot> [[Template:MicroFormatCopyrightStatement2005-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/Template:MicroFormatCopyrightStatement2005-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+103)
  55. [06:35:03] <mfbot> [[xfolk-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfolk-fr&diff=0&oldid=6946 * ChristopheDucamp * (+26) Exemple - minor edits
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  60. [06:50:44] <mfbot> [[greasemonkey-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/greasemonkey-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+4097)
  61. [06:51:20] <mfbot> [[greasemonkey-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=greasemonkey-fr&diff=0&oldid=6947 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1)
  62. [06:54:06] <mfbot> [[rellicense-issues-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/rellicense-issues-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+2891)
  63. [06:54:42] <mfbot> [[rellicense-issues-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rellicense-issues-fr&diff=0&oldid=6948 * ChristopheDucamp * (+15) Problématiques -
  64. [06:56:23] <mfbot> [[Greasemonkey-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/Greasemonkey-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+30) #REDIRECT [[grease-monkey-fr]]
  65. [06:56:39] <mfbot> [[Greasemonkey-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Greasemonkey-fr&diff=0&oldid=6949 * ChristopheDucamp * (-1) #REDIRECT [[greasemonkey-fr]]
  66. [06:58:30] <mfbot> [[xfolk-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=xfolk-fr&diff=0&oldid=6950 * ChristopheDucamp * (+11) Implémentations -
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  70. [07:16:32] <mfbot> [[greasemonkey-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=greasemonkey-fr&diff=0&oldid=6951 * ChristopheDucamp * (+2) Démo -
  71. [07:24:28] <mfbot> [[xfolk-issues-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/xfolk-issues-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+1745)
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  73. [07:52:40] <mfbot> [[hcard-profile-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-profile-fr&diff=0&oldid=6952 * ChristopheDucamp * (+14) Profil hCard -
  74. [08:02:16] <mfbot> [[profile-uris-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/profile-uris-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+1163)
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  76. [08:03:41] <jibot> trovster is a web developer from the UK who writes on http://www.trovster.com and runs www.csslounge.co.uk
  77. [08:03:47] <trovster> Morning.
  78. [08:10:07] <mfbot> [[faqs-for-rdf-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/faqs-for-rdf-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+7494) structure translated
  79. [08:20:04] <mfbot> [[faqs-for-rdf-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=faqs-for-rdf-fr&diff=0&oldid=6953 * ChristopheDucamp * (+192) Que sont les Microformats ? -
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  83. [08:56:21] <mfbot> [[faqs-for-rdf-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=faqs-for-rdf-fr&diff=0&oldid=6954 * ChristopheDucamp * (+804) faqs-for rdf - to be reviewed
  84. [08:59:37] <mfbot> [[Talk:Main Page]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=6955 * Rrrrrrrrrwf * (+30826)
  85. [08:59:48] <mfbot> [[Main Page-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-fr&diff=0&oldid=6956 * ChristopheDucamp * (+65) Outils & et Tests de Cas & Recherche Supplémentaire -
  86. [09:14:04] <mfbot> [[parsing-microformats-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/parsing-microformats-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+2566) parsing-microformats - to be reviewed
  87. [09:23:35] <mfbot> [[Main Page-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-fr&diff=0&oldid=6957 * ChristopheDucamp * (+32) Brouillons - add fr suffix -> to be translated
  88. [09:25:57] <mfbot> [[Main Page-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-fr&diff=0&oldid=6958 * ChristopheDucamp * (+135) Design Patterns - add fr suffix -> to be translated
  89. [09:28:52] <mfbot> [[Main Page-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-fr&diff=0&oldid=6959 * ChristopheDucamp * (+84) microformats wiki en d'autres langues - typo
  90. [09:29:23] <mfbot> [[Main Page-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-fr&diff=0&oldid=6960 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1) Design Patterns -
  91. [09:57:45] <mfbot> [[introduction-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/introduction-fr * SebastienSauteur * (+10502) amorce traduction introduction-fr
  92. [10:07:32] <mfbot> [[abbr-design-pattern-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/abbr-design-pattern-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+3366) abbr-design-pattern : translation to be reviewed
  93. [10:11:48] <mfbot> [[Main Page-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-fr&diff=0&oldid=6961 * ChristopheDucamp * (+3) Introduction - - introduction-fr
  94. [10:13:14] <mfbot> [[Template:NewMarker]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Template:NewMarker&diff=0&oldid=6962 * ChristopheDucamp * (+5) Template:NewMarker -> nouveau
  95. [10:13:55] <mfbot> [[Template:NewMarker]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Template:NewMarker&diff=0&oldid=6963 * ChristopheDucamp * (-5) revert
  96. [10:14:16] <mfbot> [[Template:NewMarker-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/Template:NewMarker-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+114) nouveau
  97. [10:16:22] <mfbot> [[Main Page-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-fr&diff=0&oldid=6964 * ChristopheDucamp * (+17) {{NewMarker-fr}}
  98. [10:16:58] <mfbot> [[Main Page-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-fr&diff=0&oldid=6965 * ChristopheDucamp * (+3) Design Patterns -
  99. [10:17:34] <mfbot> [[Main Page-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-fr&diff=0&oldid=6966 * ChristopheDucamp * (+3) Discussions Exploratoires -
  100. [10:17:55] <mfbot> [[Main Page-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page-fr&diff=0&oldid=6968 * ChristopheDucamp * (+3) Traduction ailleurs de microformats -
  101. [10:17:56] <mfbot> [[introduction-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=introduction-fr&diff=0&oldid=6967 * SebastienSauteur * (+364) a suivre..
  102. [10:20:07] <mfbot> [[introduction-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=introduction-fr&diff=0&oldid=6969 * SebastienSauteur * (+1) Pourquoi les Microformats -
  103. [10:20:33] <mfbot> [[Main Page]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=6970 * ChristopheDucamp * (+17) microformats wiki in other languages - {{NewMarker-fr}} over 50 articles
  104. [10:32:09] <mfbot> [[class-design-pattern-fr]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/class-design-pattern-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+2165) class-design-pattern : translation to be reviewed
  105. [10:44:11] <mfbot> [[datetime-design-pattern-fr]] MN http://microformats.org/wiki/datetime-design-pattern-fr * ChristopheDucamp * (+11264) translation in progress
  106. [10:51:52] <mfbot> [[what-are-microformats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=what-are-microformats-fr&diff=0&oldid=6971 * ChristopheDucamp * (+8) Tantek Çelik -
  107. [10:52:48] <mfbot> [[what-are-microformats-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=what-are-microformats-fr&diff=0&oldid=6972 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1) Que sont les micro-formats ? - typo
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  112. [11:35:14] <jibot> ryanlowe is Ryan Lowe, http://www.fanconcert.com
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  114. [11:40:05] <jibot> gsnedders is a 14 year old idiot from Scotland and pretends to have a website at http://geoffers.uni.cc/
  115. [11:40:17] <ryanlowe> LOL
  116. [11:42:29] * gsnedders hopes my def isn't that funny…
  117. [11:49:34] <ryanlowe> :)
  118. [11:55:55] <trovster> Oh hello.
  119. [11:56:53] <trovster> http://paste.css-standards.org/1229 why doesn't this hatom parse?
  120. [12:18:01] <mfbot> [[to-do-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do-fr&diff=0&oldid=6973 * SebastienSauteur * (+13) @Christophe : peut-être indiquer un statut pour page (itératif: encours, àrelire,àpaufiner, etc.) car rss dense...
  121. [12:18:27] <mfbot> [[to-do-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do-fr&diff=0&oldid=6974 * SebastienSauteur * (+3) Page Accueil francophone : -
  122. [12:25:21] <gsnedders> the bits about being an idiot and pretending to have a website _might_ not be true…
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  126. [12:57:19] <mfbot> [[introduction-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=introduction-fr&diff=0&oldid=6975 * SebastienSauteur * (+322) to be continued...
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  128. [12:58:38] <jibot> dglazkov is Dimitri Glazkov (http://glazkov.com) and lives in Birmingham, AL, USA (-6:00 GMT)
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  131. [13:10:59] <jibot> bear is located near Philadelphia, PA and the build/release grunt for OSAF and an apprentice python hacker
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  133. [13:38:31] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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  138. [14:32:49] <mfbot> [[introduction-fr]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=introduction-fr&diff=0&oldid=6976 * ChristopheDucamp * (+1) Que sont les Microformats? -
  139. [14:36:44] <mfbot> [[introduction-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=introduction-fr&diff=0&oldid=6977 * ChristopheDucamp * (+80) @seb : cool ton démarrage dans la micro-communauté microforat ! - ajout simple extension suffixe -fr sur l'intro
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  141. [14:43:22] <jibot> cgriego is Chris Griego (-06:00)
  142. [14:55:19] <pnhChris> oh.. i didn't notice we had our bots back :P
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  146. [15:36:17] <mfbot> [[introduction-fr]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=introduction-fr&diff=0&oldid=6978 * SebastienSauteur * (+650) à relire.
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  148. [15:39:40] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
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  154. [16:05:16] <tantek> briansuda, the results you are seeing in outlook, which version are you using?
  155. [16:06:12] <tantek> would be good to add some more details to http://microformats.org/wiki/vcard-implementations and http://microformats.org/wiki/icalendar-implementations
  156. [16:06:13] <trovster> Hello tantek
  157. [16:06:18] <tantek> hello trovster!
  158. [16:07:31] <trovster> http://paste.css-standards.org/1229 why doesn't this hatom parse?
  159. [16:07:34] <briansuda> i am using Outlook 2002
  160. [16:18:57] <trovster> Any ideas? I get Could not parse sourcetree. From http://www.lukearno.com/projects/hatom2atom/
  161. [16:24:50] <briansuda> trovser, are there any error messages? and is that pasted code available anywhere so i can run it the hatom2atom converter?
  162. [16:25:13] <trovster> briansuda: I can PM you the URL, don't want it logging in the channel
  163. [16:25:44] <briansuda> i think i am logged in, go ahead and try to PM me
  164. [16:31:18] <trovster> I need a UK/European-based Microformat-ist so they're around while I'm working, not popping up about 1/2hour before I go home
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  166. [16:39:55] <mfbot> [[hcard-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-parsing&diff=0&oldid=6979 * Brian * (+245) Added parsing order issues, please itterate as needed
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  170. [16:52:11] <mfbot> [[User talk:ChristopheDucamp]] N http://microformats.org/wiki/User_talk:ChristopheDucamp * Remi * (+157) Beau travail!
  171. [16:52:32] <mfbot> [[User talk:ChristopheDucamp]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=User_talk:ChristopheDucamp&diff=0&oldid=6980 * Remi * (+19)
  172. [16:52:58] <mfbot> [[hcard-parsing]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-parsing&diff=0&oldid=6981 * Tantek * (-29) clarified/moved/shortened detail on first occurence where it is currently used, finding hCard properties, and added separate section for include-pattern and table headers handling
  173. [16:54:49] <mfbot> [[hcard-parsing]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-parsing&diff=0&oldid=6982 * Tantek * (+43) moved include-pattern handling above proposed additions
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  175. [16:57:00] <jibot> Enric is a media Software Developer and Videoblogger located at http://www.cirne.com
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  183. [17:52:28] <jibot> kingryan is ryan king
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  185. [18:09:37] <mfbot> [[Special:Log/block]] http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Special:Log/block&diff=0&oldid=0 * RyanKing * (+0) blocked "User:Rrrrrrrrrwf" with an expiry time of indefinite: spammer
  186. [18:12:13] <mfbot> [[Talk:Main Page]] M http://microformats.org/wiki?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=0&oldid=6983 * Tantek * (-30825)
  187. [18:12:33] <tantek> wow that was nasty. the spammer put so much in the page that you couldn't do a diff.
  188. [18:12:37] <kingryan> tantek: did you manage to revert that page?
  189. [18:12:45] <tantek> yep
  190. [18:12:49] <tantek> the trick is
  191. [18:12:55] <kingryan> good, I couldn't get it to work
  192. [18:12:55] <tantek> view the *history* for the page
  193. [18:13:04] <tantek> and then *edit* the latest good version
  194. [18:13:14] <tantek> make a minor change (like add a " " space)
  195. [18:13:16] <tantek> and then save
  196. [18:13:25] <tantek> it will blow away all changes since the version you edited
  197. [18:13:28] <kingryan> ah, gotcha
  198. [18:13:42] <tantek> that's how you "revert to a specific version" in MediaWiki
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  200. [18:14:20] <tantek> I couldn't find any other pages hit by that spammer. Do you know of any?
  201. [18:16:32] <kingryan> I didn't see any in the log
  202. [18:16:47] <kingryan> besides the stuff you've already caught
  203. [18:19:03] <kingryan> btw, tantek- we'd talked about making dglazkov a wiki admin, right?
  204. [18:19:12] <tantek> yes
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  206. [18:23:51] <dglazkov> if only to be the spam sentinel
  207. [18:25:06] <kingryan> this is one more step in the war against terror^H^H^H^H^H^H spam
  208. [18:25:39] <dglazkov> what about demanding call records from phone companies?
  209. [18:26:17] * pnhChris creates a faux-spam-house just to prove that the anti-spam funding is necessary
  210. [18:29:33] <bewest> hmmm I just read this: http://www.foolswisdom.com/~lloyd/wordpress/index.php/flocktails-brings-microformats-to-flock/ as posted on the list
  211. [18:29:59] <bewest> there's an interesting shift
  212. [18:30:30] <bewest> that could happen... the author noted that yahoo and it's subsidiaries publish microformats
  213. [18:33:03] <bewest> which might read to some as an extension specifically built to help browse yahoo sites
  214. [18:35:14] <tantek> except when it starts working on plenty of other sites too
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  234. [19:37:41] <jibot> pnhChris is Chris Casciano, blogs at http://placenamehere.com/ , and a member of the Web Standards Project.
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  236. [19:45:21] <jibot> tantek is Tantek <http://tantek.com> and works on Technorati and develops microformats <http://microformats.org>
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  259. [21:41:40] <jibot> briansuda is brian suda of http://suda.co.uk/ and http://claimid.com/briansuda in his freetime he works on the X2V microformats parser (-0600 CST)
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  261. [21:45:17] <jibot> Remi is Remi Prevost, a web developper (yeah, that's how we spell "developer" in french) from Quebec and blogs about web stuff at <http://remiprevost.com/>
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  263. [21:50:49] <drewinthehead> evenin' all
  264. [21:51:22] <drewinthehead> if anyone gets a moment, i'd appreciate any quick tests on http://allinthehead.com/demo/hkit-signup/
  265. [21:51:42] <drewinthehead> enter a URL containing an hCard
  266. [21:52:05] * pnhChris looks
  267. [21:52:11] <pnhChris> if i ca get to it today
  268. [21:52:20] * pnhChris kicks the intorweb
  269. [21:52:48] <drewinthehead> that'll be the wonder of Textdrive, i'm afraid
  270. [21:52:55] <kingryan> fetched for me
  271. [21:53:00] <pnhChris> hows this thing supposed to withstand a nuke if it can't route around whatever issues i seem to be having
  272. [21:53:02] <kingryan> not sure what its supposed to do, though
  273. [21:53:03] <pnhChris> no
  274. [21:53:09] <pnhChris> not textdrive
  275. [21:53:16] <pnhChris> comcrap
  276. [21:53:33] <pnhChris> nope, can't seem to get to the server
  277. [21:53:44] <kingryan> briansuda: ping
  278. [21:54:13] <drewinthehead> kingryan - it's just a demo to show how hKit could be used - nowt special
  279. [21:54:33] <kingryan> have you tested it in safari?
  280. [21:54:45] <pnhChris> no aim, no svn repository on my current project, and about 1/3 of the rest of net is down for me, drew
  281. [21:54:47] <Remi> drewinthehead, it's working for me
  282. [21:55:10] <Remi> except that it takes all the hcards from my hatom feed
  283. [21:55:15] * briansuda is here
  284. [21:55:40] <kingryan> I'm adding a type to hcard test 23
  285. [21:55:49] <kingryan> does the order with charset and type matter?
  286. [21:56:18] <drewinthehead> kingryan - should be fine in Safari. Sometimes it'll fail to find any cards thanks to the overzealous nature of Tidy
  287. [21:56:21] <briansuda> it shouldn't those are just parameters, like HTML attributes
  288. [21:56:29] <kingryan> ok briansuda
  289. [21:56:46] <kingryan> drewinthehead - it spins, then says "pick a profile", but then does nothing else
  290. [21:57:12] <drewinthehead> kindryan - what URL are you entering?
  291. [21:57:37] <drewinthehead> (well, you are kind, too)
  292. [21:58:02] <kingryan> http://theryanking.com/blog/
  293. [21:58:57] <kingryan> doesn't appear to work in camino, either
  294. [21:59:02] <kingryan> (at least, for me)
  295. [22:00:12] <drewinthehead> something odd is occurring there. works fine in safari and camino with that URL here. will investigate.
  296. [22:06:06] * DanC tries http://allinthehead.com/demo/hkit-signup/ ; doesn't seem to win
  297. [22:06:40] <DanC> oh... now it's doing something... I choose my profile and it fills in my email address only.
  298. [22:07:46] <drewinthehead> thanks DanC ... back to the drawing board for me, I think!
  299. [22:08:21] <DanC> hmm... x2v doesn't get my 1st/last name either...
  300. [22:08:23] <DanC> N;CHARSET=UTF-8:;;;;
  301. [22:08:23] <DanC> FN;CHARSET=UTF-8:Dan Connolly
  302. [22:08:47] <DanC> it's a cool idea, drewinthehead ... assuming the idea is you can use an hCard to save time when signing up
  303. [22:09:16] <drewinthehead> sure, i'd be useful for filling out shipping forms etc, for example
  304. [22:09:18] <briansuda> DanC, what's the URL you are using that X2V fails, i can look into it
  305. [22:09:37] <DanC> I'm not sure x2v is failing... I'm using http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/
  306. [22:10:27] <kingryan> DanC', its because you're using the classname n
  307. [22:10:34] <kingryan> that turns the implied-n thing off
  308. [22:10:35] <DanC> class="given">Dan<
  309. [22:10:47] <DanC> hmm... did given-name used to be given at some point?
  310. [22:10:51] <tantek> given-name
  311. [22:10:55] <kingryan> don't think so
  312. [22:10:57] <tantek> no
  313. [22:11:50] * DanC fixed in 1.404
  314. [22:11:56] <DanC> chuckle... 404
  315. [22:12:31] <DanC> ok, now http://allinthehead.com/demo/hkit-signup/ gets my name
  316. [22:13:25] <DanC> I suppose if I'm comfortable giving lat/long of a nearby airport, I can put the country where I'm based on my homepage
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  318. [22:15:18] <DanC> while hunting for tantek's vcard to see if gives a country, I find "Plain old XML (POX) formats in the long run are no better than proprietary binary formats." bold claim!
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  320. [22:15:32] <DanC> I tend to say that XML solves 10% of the problem
  321. [22:15:47] <kingryan> which 10%?
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  323. [22:16:44] <DanC> unicode foo, backslash-escaping level stuff, and finding beginning/end of things.
  324. [22:17:35] <DanC> not that XML really "solves" unicode foo, but using XML involves getting on the Unicode bandwagon, which helps
  325. [22:18:42] <DanC> and I guess match="a &lt; b" is not a whole lot better than other backslash-escaping level strategies, but it's sorta standard.
  326. [22:18:56] <KevinMarks> well, there are standards for binary fromats too
  327. [22:19:01] <KevinMarks> IFF
  328. [22:19:35] <DanC> IFF a la TIFF? I hear scary things about TIFF. (not that XML isn't scary)
  329. [22:19:46] <KevinMarks> oh, TIFF is scary sure
  330. [22:20:04] <KevinMarks> http://epeus.blogspot.com/2005_10_01_epeus_archive.html#112838262830478654
  331. [22:20:41] <KevinMarks> IFF is a framework for tagged chunks of binary data, much as xml is a framework for tagged chunks of text daya
  332. [22:21:12] <DanC> RFC822 is an extremely mixed blessing. it's fine as long as you don't need to parse the To: field reliably ;-)
  333. [22:21:20] <KevinMarks> IFF dates back to EA in the 80s
  334. [22:21:43] <DanC> EA? (sorry)
  335. [22:21:44] <KevinMarks> and is the basis of AIFF, AVI, QuickTime and TIFF
  336. [22:21:48] <KevinMarks> Electronic Arts
  337. [22:21:50] <DanC> ah
  338. [22:22:09] <DanC> really? I didn't know EA goes back that ar
  339. [22:22:10] <DanC> far
  340. [22:22:24] <kingryan> of course, that 10% comes with a cost, DanC
  341. [22:22:46] <DanC> I guess the early days of AVI/AIFF weren't really discussed on the Internet
  342. [22:22:54] <KevinMarks> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interchange_File_Format
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  344. [22:23:29] <DanC> eek! how did I get into the position of defending XML? I have better things to do with my time on this rock.
  345. [22:25:06] <tantek> heh
  346. [22:25:37] <DanC> My blurb on formats I trust is http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-interest/2000Jul/0020.html , recently revived in http://dig.csail.mit.edu/breadcrumbs/node/130
  347. [22:25:54] <kingryan> sorry DanC
  348. [22:26:20] <DanC> and the whole http://dm93.org/z2001/ToMacOrNotToMac open-vs-closed thing is near and dear to my heart
  349. [22:27:18] <DanC> ooh... here's hoping the universe affords me the chance to buy Ernie a beer and ask him about that one.
  350. [22:28:54] <KevinMarks> markp said 'fire Ernie' the other day
  351. [22:29:21] * DanC gets a mental 404 on 'markp'; help?
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  353. [22:29:50] <KevinMarks> Mark Pilgrim
  354. [22:29:59] <DanC> d'oh
  355. [22:30:17] * DanC introduces left half of brain to right half
  356. [22:33:15] * KevinMarks edits the wikipedia IFF page
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  358. [22:35:44] <DanC> hmm... LOGO;VALUE=uri::/icon80px.jpg
  359. [22:35:57] <DanC> ^from x2v on tantek.com
  360. [22:37:06] <DanC> the whole "sign up" thing is pretty near and dear to my heart, as W3C tries to figure out what to do about phishing, and all the identity 2.0 folks are re-inventing vCard and such
  361. [22:37:46] <kingryan> that logo value doesn't look very helpful
  362. [22:37:50] <DanC> hmm... tantek's vcard doesn't give his email address
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  364. [22:38:42] <drewinthehead> DanC: a use-case I was thinking of was the scenario where you want to get something shipped from Amazon to a different address, such as your workplace. pop in the URL and let the site go find the address.
  365. [22:39:22] <DanC> that's a particularly touchy one, drewinthehead . the risk that bad guys will redirect shipments is a very, very serious one
  366. [22:40:13] <DanC> but I guess if amazon lets you fill in a shipping address, they might as well let you do it conveniently
  367. [22:40:32] <drewinthehead> DanC - sure, but it's a time-saver so long as you have the user verify the data. you'd want that anyway in case they want to tweak the details (e.g. Building C)
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  369. [22:41:14] <DanC> is anybody working on openid for the microformats wiki?
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  371. [22:41:53] <kingryan> not that I know of DanC
  372. [22:42:02] <kingryan> is there mediawiki support for openid?
  373. [22:42:47] <DanC> I have a vague memory that it's in progress; there's certainly php code... let's see...
  374. [22:42:54] * drewinthehead is now known as drewinthehead_
  375. [22:43:55] <DanC> "# MediaWiki patch from NetMesh that also supports Yadis and LID, see in action at yadis.org, lid.netmesh.org, rss-extensions.org" -- http://www.lifewiki.net/openid/OpenIDWishlist
  376. [22:45:23] <DanC> wow... the recent changes log indeed has URIs for people http://yadis.org/wiki/Special:Recentchangeslinked/Main_Page
  377. [22:46:37] <kingryan> nice
  378. [22:46:56] <Remi> for your information guys, I just released the microformats logo in SVG format: http://remiprevost.com/images/wallpapers/microformats/mf-vector.svg
  379. [22:47:13] <kingryan> awesome, Remi!
  380. [22:47:27] <DanC> richeous, Remi
  381. [22:48:09] <DanC> righteous, even
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  384. [22:55:44] * BenWard (n=BenWard@cpc3-cmbg2-0-0-cust381.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) Quit ()
  385. [22:56:15] <DanC> the http://allinthehead.com/demo/hkit-signup/ doesn't do anything when I hit enter; only when I leave the URL field
  386. [22:56:56] <DanC> ok, now it finds first, last, email, company, and country. I think I'll leave my phone number unpublished
  387. [22:58:06] <tantek> DanC, LOGO;VALUE=uri::/icon80px.jpg is X2V failing to support relative URLs
  388. [22:59:16] <tantek> drew, hkit-signup is very cool
  389. [23:02:33] <DanC> briansuda, didn't we fix the relative URL issue?
  390. [23:02:35] <DanC> hmm
  391. [23:03:48] <briansuda> i thought so, but maybe it was an issue with BASE
  392. [23:04:03] <DanC> ah... maybe I didn't invoke x2v correctly
  393. [23:04:23] <DanC> Source?
  394. [23:05:20] * DanC tries --novalid out of habit, loses on &copy;
  395. [23:05:23] * Enric (n=Enric@c-67-188-10-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #microformats
  396. [23:05:23] <jibot> Enric is a media Software Developer and Videoblogger located at http://www.cirne.com
  397. [23:05:33] <DanC> &copy; it outside of what I consider safe XHTML.
  398. [23:06:00] <DanC> hmm... now I get LOGO;VALUE=uri:http://tantek.com/icon80px.jpg
  399. [23:06:10] <DanC> I guess that's right
  400. [23:06:14] <tantek> i didn't touch the page ;)
  401. [23:06:22] <tantek> yes, that's correct
  402. [23:06:55] <tantek> drew, I have a suggestion for hkit-signup
  403. [23:06:59] * Enric (n=Enric@c-67-188-10-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) Quit (Client Quit)
  404. [23:07:23] <tantek> how about defaulting the profile popup to the profile who's "url" property matches the url entered into the "your website" input box?
  405. [23:09:13] * DanC discovers <fieldset> ...
  406. [23:10:20] <DanC> wow... http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/interact/forms.html#h-17.10 ... proof that you don't have to read a spec to chair the relevant WG ;-)
  407. [23:11:25] <DanC> where's the magic that makes it go? I don't see any onExitField event thingies
  408. [23:11:48] * briansuda (n=briansud@h-68-166-252-239.chcgilgm.covad.net) Quit ()
  409. [23:11:55] * DanC follows his nose to http://allinthehead.com/demo/hkit-signup/demo.js
  410. [23:12:16] * kingryan is shocked that DanC didnt' know about <fieldset>
  411. [23:12:54] * DanC tries to think of an excuse; fails utterly
  412. [23:13:14] * kingryan points to an example at http://microformats.org/code/hcard/creator
  413. [23:13:40] <kingryan> make that http://microformats.org/code/hreview/creator
  414. [23:13:54] * tantek is also shocked that DanC didn't know about <fieldset>
  415. [23:13:58] <DanC> var myAjax doesn't seem to be used. I'm just learning JavaScript... am I missing something?
  416. [23:14:16] <kingryan> this does the binding:
  417. [23:14:17] <kingryan> Event.observe($('get-url'), 'blur', get_url);
  418. [23:14:25] <DanC> I guess I've never made a form with more than one or 2 fields.
  419. [23:15:11] <DanC> Is Event.observe part of the javascript standard library? or should I poke around some more?
  420. [23:15:28] * DanC puzzles over $('get-url')
  421. [23:15:47] <DanC> oops... family time and then some
  422. [23:15:57] <kingryan> $ = document.getElementById
  423. [23:16:09] <kingryan> that's how the cool kids do it these days
  424. [23:17:55] <DanC> aha... function $() { in http://allinthehead.com/demo/hkit-signup/prototype.js
  425. [23:18:27] <DanC> rather perl-esque. offends my pythonic sensibilities, I'm afraid.
  426. [23:19:17] * DanC wanders off...
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